Horse-Racing-Trading-Strategies

One of our members 'Ray' has kindly offered to share his back to Lay selections on here for us to follow! Basically Ray selects horses which he thinks will shorten in price in running and then Lays them off during the race. Ray has had great success with his trading strategy and he would like to share his tips right here for you.

Hi Guys

I’m Ray 37yrs old and been trading on the Betfair markets for several years, I am what you call an In Running Trader
I concentrate on Horses who are likely to front run but this on its own just isn’t enough,Im also looking for a Horse who responds to pressure and also travels well and trades well on the ground.
I go through alot of historical data and Horses are reautures of habit and tend to run the same as they did previously
I will be putting my selections up every evening for the following days racing before 9pm
Just before the off I will back the selection and look to lay it off at a lower price in running roughly around half its BSP
Example One- Back Tornado In Milan @ 6.2 Lay Tornado In Milan @ 3.1 (Half of 6.2=3.1) What I suggest is to lay it a few ticks higher @ 3.5

Example Two Back Robert The Painter @ 11.5 Lay it @ 5.7 (Half its BSP) Few ticks higher 6.2

Its a lot easier once you have done this a few times but any questions please feel free to ask
A lot of my trades will come in no doubt about that, but I do not win every trade just most of them,I trade £50 and make £47.5 after Betfair Comm, and once I have two trades in the bag I stop for the day and Im happy making £95 a day 6 days a week.

So Thanks for giving me a go,Now lets make some dosh!

 

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21 thoughts on “Ray’s Back to Lay Trades”

  1. Finally getting back on track 2/3

    Wednesday
    150 Leic Potters Legend (If above 3.0)
    245 Lud Another Hero
    410 Leic Walk In The Mill

  2. Well Pancake Day done the business trading from 11.5 down to 2.0 Southern Star was below 3.0 at the off and Giovanni was a NR

    Tuesday
    200 South Edgar
    230 South Razin Hell (Big Run Expected)
    340 Taun after Hours

  3. OK Guys, I have made my tweaks to my system and believe Im going to be back in business this week

    200 Wolv Pancake Day
    250 Kemp Southern Star
    325 Kemp Giovanni De Bicci

  4. Hi Guys

    Due to conditions and the past few days results I am not happy and working on some filters and will be back Saturday

    Most of the selections are trading lower but not low enough for us to profit

    See You Saturday

    Ray

  5. If I back for £50.00 ,how much do I lay it off for?to get a 50.00 profit.
    I will try your selections withwhat I do.
    I devide the price I take by 1.5 ,BACK FOR 50.00 AND LAY OFF FOR 62. 1200 PROFIT.
    wHAT PART OF BET ANGEL DO YOU USE AND IS THERE A VIDEO FOR IT.

    Robert

    1. Hi Rob

      I suggest you look up In running Videos on youtube this will explain things a lot clearer than I could

      Well It’s always the way the minute you start sharing things it all starts to look wobbly…Typical

      Wednesday

      150 Catt Over And Above
      225 Catt Poulanssy
      245 Bang May Hay
      300 Catt Major Ivan
      320 Bang Preseli Rock
      335 Catt Uno Volroso
      345 Ling Delago Bay
      405 Ling Astrum

  6. Hi Ray,
    Thanks for sharing these selections and strategy.
    My question is the same as Johnny’s below.
    It looks to me as though you are backing for £50.0 and laying off for £100.0, relying on it running well but not winning. Is this correct?
    I guess it is easy to omit the obvious when it is second nature to you, doing this all the time.
    Best
    Malcolm

    1. Seems this way to me. As for relying on it not winning, it doesn’t matter, the trade is complete once the inplay odds have been reached.

      I’m interested in the trade out options used when things don’t go to plan.

  7. Hi Ray
    Interested in your trading strategy, don’t fully understand how you make those profits but would like to give it a try
    Many Thanks
    Eric Griffiths

  8. Hi Ray,good luck with your venture,and thanks for posting your selections,just a couple of questions if I may,if/when your lay bet is matched,are you greening up across the field or leaving a risk free bet on your selection?

    Also,I take it to actually win £7,is your initial back bet much higher to achieve this?

    Kind Regards,Johnny

  9. Hi Guys

    I’m Ray 37yrs old and been trading on the Betfair markets for several years, I am what you call an In Running Trader
    I concentrate on Horses who are likely to front run but this on its own just isn’t enough,Im also looking for a Horse who responds to pressure and also travels well and trades well on the ground.
    I go through alot of historical data and Horses are reautures of habit and tend to run the same as they did previously
    I will be putting my selections up every evening for the following days racing before 9pm
    Just before the off I will back the selection and look to lay it off at a lower price in running roughly around half its BSP
    Example One- Back Tornado In Milan @ 6.2 Lay Tornado In Milan @ 3.1 (Half of 6.2=3.1) What I suggest is to lay it a few ticks higher @ 3.5

    Example Two Back Robert The Painter @ 11.5 Lay it @ 5.7 (Half its BSP) Few ticks higher 6.2

    Its a lot easier once you have done this a few times but any questions please feel free to ask
    A lot of my trades will come in no doubt about that, but I do not win every trade just most of them,I trade £50 and make £47.5 after Betfair Comm, and once I have two trades in the bag I stop for the day and Im happy making £95 a day 6 days a week.

    So Thanks for giving me a go,Now lets make some dosh!

    Selecions for Monday will follow shortly

    Ray

    1. Monday 25th Jan 2016
      If any of these horses are trading below 3.0 I tend to ignore them,If your are more cautious punter use a calculator and divide the BSP by 1.5 and this will be the price you get out….ie (Back)5.5 divide 1.5 = (Lay) 3.6
      Kemp 105 Followthetracks
      Newc 230 Clan Legend
      Kemp 240 Closing Ceremony
      Kemp 345 Galway Jack
      Wolv 400 All The Winds

        1. Hi Guys

          Off to a poor start for my standards and Newcastle being off didnt help but this is the nature of the game Galway Jack was the only selecion that done the business,But stick with me on this and have your say on Friday when we have a look at the whole week

          Malcolm your spot on mate,The beauty here is we just need the horse to run decent,how many have you backed and fell at the last or pinched on the line?

          Yes Johnny soon as your bet is matched you green up,I use BetAngel Software and its all worked out for you

          Hi Lou I dont personally mate but there are ways depends on the person

          Tuesdays Selecions will follow